[ okay, he thinks he can see where this is going. kind of.
still, he hesitates for a moment because he's not sure he should be pulling in stuff discussed with the other dave. however, rambling on and on to avoid the point is something they both do when they're nervous so maybe it's better to cut to the chase. ]
Are you coming out to John?
[ he fuckin' hates that phrase but it's the best way to put it simply. ]
essentially yes and i know hes not gonna care really even with the whole so hey remember when we were thirteen and i made a secret playlist dedicated to you and your terrible taste thing but its kind of like
Maybe a little. But that might only be by virtue of me already having knowledge that you personally haven't disclosed to me. Other you more or less asked about coming out to friends during our conversation. He made it sound like he wanted to come out to John about a relationship he was in that went against preconceived notions about his sexuality. So knowing that makes your predicament sort of obvious to me. ...Sorry?
dude you dont have to apologize for that obviously one of me felt it was worth disclosing and i was coming to ask you again anyway although i like kind of hinted to him that i dont strictly only like girls like say egbert so this is more "i have a crush on you but nbd imma work on getting past it this is step one" anyway now im just sitting here with the knowledge i apparently dated vantas because i fucking HOPE i didnt tell you i was in a relationship with the juggalo i refuse to believe there is any version of me that would knock back a faygo and get with that please if paradox space has any mercy whatsoever which i know it doesnt but also ew??
You didn't say who it was, but I don't think it was a juggalo. Or at least I hope it wasn't. That would be really damn weird since my bro cut down the juggalo presidents. I feel like you and juggalos having a contentious relationship should be a multi-universal constant. But using great deduction skills and going by the names dropped most often in the conversation, I would hazard a guess and say it was Karkat? If that's who Vantas is. Anyway, so this is a coming out and a confession all in one. Man. Good luck. I don't think John will take it badly though. He seems pretty chill. And not to give you false hope or anything, but he might come around and be down for it? Jake did.
ok yeah karkat vantas there were three dudes on the meteor i was one of them well i mean the mayor was there too but that would be wrong the mayor is precious and must be protected at all costs and between karkat and gamzee id rather kiss karkat in fact between jack noir and gamzee id rather kiss jack lets just put this into perspective betty crocker vs gamzee??? pucker up betty but anyway yeah no well be fine in the best friend realm honestly if he were anyone else he probably would have figured it out when he played around with my beat machine and found like the playlist i mentioned earlier but its john and hes hilariously oblivious so i could technically have gotten away with this for years and have done but i figured im kinda tired of lying about anything to him especially since he told me flat out everything or i know what he didnt say which is the same thing
honestly im not sure i need the hope or false hope like im perfectly happy being best bros hell i wouldnt give that up for anything im just kind of nervous because i know itll be a little awkward until it isnt and one of us makes a stupid joke probably me
I have no clue who Gamzee is, but juggalo says it all and fair enough. But I have to say your attitude is better than mine was. Which is no surprise, really. Moving on is probably better if you're content to keep things the way they are. Pressuring someone into a relationship, unintentional or otherwise, doesn't work. I would know. So if confessing will help you do that, you should go for it. The awkwardness will pass.
And you can ask. To be honest I didn't quite tell him. I meant to do it when we entered our session, but things went wrong. Like really wrong. The AR ended up taking the reigns and although his insane plan culminated in saving all our lives, it also led to Jake having to kiss my severed head and that ended up being a batshit romantic declaration of sorts. And uh, it's not a good way to start a relationship. Don't do it that way. 0/10. Would not recommend. I get the feeling he already knew about how I felt though. He's a lot smarter than he lets on.
gamzee is like a troll he ran around in this purple fake godtier costume??? with an obnoxiously large codpiece which im still not clear on if that is actually a part of all bard costumes or if its just a thing he did for some inane clown reason??? he lived in the vents on the meteor once i spotted him in the distance ominously honking also he stole like all the dead troll bodies for some reason??? im honestly not clear about anything the dude did ever at all
but yeah im content with being best friends forever no matter what thats always been the most important thing to me probably to the point of clinginess but john doesnt seem to care all that much
also uh yeah that is a little extra???? like a lot extra no offense bro johns kind of that way too though about the smarter than he lets on thing sometimes his obliviousness is i think willful but i usually dont call him on it unless its important
Huh. A juggalo troll. Damn. Just when I thought I'd heard it all. Maybe he gave the dead bodies to Vriska? She's the one who showed up on our planets with dead troll parts to throw in our kernelsprites for some damn reason. Or maybe this is a different timeline thing.
But that's good. Both you being content as is and him not minding. My overzealous clingy bullshit is what drove Jake away, but both of you are more well-adjusted than we'll ever be.
No offense taken. I'm well aware of how extra it was. It's not how I wanted things to go, but ultimately I only have myself to blame. And maybe willful ignorance can be chalked up to being an ectobiological family trait then. Still not sure that's how biology works, but whatever.
definitely different timeline stuff vriska died before the meteor in mine
anyway i wouldnt go so far as to say were well adjusted or that you wont get there sometimes friends can be kind of difficult territory it takes a shit ton of work
Difficult territory for sure. Might be putting it mildly, even. It only gets worse when you add romance into the mix. Like the dumb romantic tension drama that dominated everything in our group damn near tore us all apart. But even then, I agree. It's worth it. Always will be.
I'm pretty sure we can safely say that biology is a myth. We've done our research and concluded such. It's totally a fact now.
Anyway, I feel like maybe it goes without saying at this point, but you're welcome here if you need to get away or whatever. Mi casa, su casa. But I doubt you'll need it. I think you two will be just fine.
No, that's a fair question. There were times where I figured it was just because he was the only viable romantic target for me, being the only other dude I knew and what not. But now I'm not so sure that's it. Or at least it's not the whole or only reason. I guess what I like most about Jake is his open-mindedness. Like I agonized for ages about how I was going to convince him I was from the future. But he believed me when I told him just like that. No convincing necessary. He could definitely do with a bit more skepticism, but it's part of his charm, you know? He's always represented hope to me and that's not me being poetic about his aspect or whatever. Also, have you seen that ass?
im pretty sure EVERYONE has seen that ass simply because we had no choice when the dude was in that tiny speedo for how long which by the way still unfortunate bless his getting other clothes a literal banana hammock is not a good fashion statement i know it wasnt his fault but like yeah well now there are a bunch of other guys existing so like youd know by now i think if that was the only reason some of the people around here are pretty cute its like theres some attractiveness requirement to being interdimensionally kidnapped and we all meet it
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still, he hesitates for a moment because he's not sure he should be pulling in stuff discussed with the other dave. however, rambling on and on to avoid the point is something they both do when they're nervous so maybe it's better to cut to the chase. ]
Are you coming out to John?
[ he fuckin' hates that phrase but it's the best way to put it simply. ]
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and i know hes not gonna care really
even with the whole so hey remember when we were thirteen and i made a secret playlist dedicated to you and your terrible taste
thing
but its kind of like
wait how did you know that
am i that obvious
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But that might only be by virtue of me already having knowledge that you personally haven't disclosed to me.
Other you more or less asked about coming out to friends during our conversation.
He made it sound like he wanted to come out to John about a relationship he was in that went against preconceived notions about his sexuality.
So knowing that makes your predicament sort of obvious to me.
...Sorry?
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obviously one of me felt it was worth disclosing
and i was coming to ask you again anyway
although i like
kind of hinted to him that i dont strictly only like girls like say
egbert
so this is more "i have a crush on you but nbd imma work on getting past it this is step one"
anyway now im just sitting here with the knowledge i apparently dated vantas
because i fucking HOPE i didnt tell you i was in a relationship with the juggalo
i refuse to believe there is any version of me that would knock back a faygo and get with that
please
if paradox space has any mercy whatsoever
which i know it doesnt but also
ew??
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Or at least I hope it wasn't. That would be really damn weird since my bro cut down the juggalo presidents.
I feel like you and juggalos having a contentious relationship should be a multi-universal constant.
But using great deduction skills and going by the names dropped most often in the conversation, I would hazard a guess and say it was Karkat?
If that's who Vantas is.
Anyway, so this is a coming out and a confession all in one.
Man. Good luck.
I don't think John will take it badly though. He seems pretty chill.
And not to give you false hope or anything, but he might come around and be down for it?
Jake did.
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karkat vantas
there were three dudes on the meteor
i was one of them
well i mean the mayor was there too but
that would be wrong the mayor is precious and must be protected at all costs
and between karkat and gamzee
id rather kiss karkat
in fact between jack noir and gamzee
id rather kiss jack
lets just put this into perspective
betty crocker vs gamzee???
pucker up betty
but anyway yeah no well be fine in the best friend realm
honestly if he were anyone else
he probably would have figured it out when he played around with my beat machine and found like
the playlist i mentioned earlier
but its john and hes hilariously oblivious
so i could technically have gotten away with this for years
and have done
but i figured im kinda tired of lying about anything to him especially since he told me flat out everything
or i know what he didnt say which is the same thing
honestly im not sure i need the hope or false hope
like
im perfectly happy being best bros
hell i wouldnt give that up for anything
im just kind of nervous because i know itll be a little awkward until it isnt
and one of us makes a stupid joke
probably me
howd you tell jake though
if i can ask
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But I have to say your attitude is better than mine was.
Which is no surprise, really.
Moving on is probably better if you're content to keep things the way they are.
Pressuring someone into a relationship, unintentional or otherwise, doesn't work.
I would know.
So if confessing will help you do that, you should go for it. The awkwardness will pass.
And you can ask.
To be honest I didn't quite tell him.
I meant to do it when we entered our session, but things went wrong. Like really wrong.
The AR ended up taking the reigns and although his insane plan culminated in saving all our lives, it also led to Jake having to kiss my severed head and that ended up being a batshit romantic declaration of sorts.
And uh, it's not a good way to start a relationship.
Don't do it that way. 0/10. Would not recommend.
I get the feeling he already knew about how I felt though. He's a lot smarter than he lets on.
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a troll
he ran around in this purple fake godtier costume???
with an obnoxiously large codpiece
which im still not clear on if that is actually a part of all bard costumes
or if its just
a thing he did for some inane clown reason???
he lived in the vents on the meteor
once i spotted him in the distance ominously honking
also he stole like all the dead troll bodies for
some reason???
im honestly not clear about anything the dude did ever
at all
but yeah im content with being best friends forever
no matter what thats always been the most important thing to me
probably to the point of clinginess but john doesnt seem to care all that much
also
uh
yeah that is a little
extra????
like a lot extra
no offense bro
johns kind of that way too though
about the smarter than he lets on thing
sometimes his obliviousness is i think willful
but i usually dont call him on it unless its important
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A juggalo troll.
Damn. Just when I thought I'd heard it all.
Maybe he gave the dead bodies to Vriska?
She's the one who showed up on our planets with dead troll parts to throw in our kernelsprites for some damn reason.
Or maybe this is a different timeline thing.
But that's good.
Both you being content as is and him not minding.
My overzealous clingy bullshit is what drove Jake away, but both of you are more well-adjusted than we'll ever be.
No offense taken.
I'm well aware of how extra it was.
It's not how I wanted things to go, but ultimately I only have myself to blame.
And maybe willful ignorance can be chalked up to being an ectobiological family trait then.
Still not sure that's how biology works, but whatever.
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vriska died before the meteor in mine
anyway i wouldnt go so far as to say were well adjusted
or that you wont get there
sometimes friends can be kind of difficult territory
it takes a shit ton of work
but theyre worth it
i am reasonably sure biology is fake back home
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It only gets worse when you add romance into the mix.
Like the dumb romantic tension drama that dominated everything in our group damn near tore us all apart.
But even then, I agree. It's worth it.
Always will be.
I'm pretty sure we can safely say that biology is a myth.
We've done our research and concluded such. It's totally a fact now.
Anyway, I feel like maybe it goes without saying at this point, but you're welcome here if you need to get away or whatever.
Mi casa, su casa.
But I doubt you'll need it. I think you two will be just fine.
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what is it that you like about jake
out of curiosity
if thats not like a too weird or intrusive question
also yeah biology is fake high five
and ill like
keep that in mind if i need a bolt hole
you know you can come over here whenever too right
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There were times where I figured it was just because he was the only viable romantic target for me, being the only other dude I knew and what not.
But now I'm not so sure that's it. Or at least it's not the whole or only reason.
I guess what I like most about Jake is his open-mindedness.
Like I agonized for ages about how I was going to convince him I was from the future.
But he believed me when I told him just like that. No convincing necessary.
He could definitely do with a bit more skepticism, but it's part of his charm, you know?
He's always represented hope to me and that's not me being poetic about his aspect or whatever.
Also, have you seen that ass?
[ sorry bro, it had to be said. ]
Good.
And yeah, I know. Thanks, Bro.
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which by the way still unfortunate bless his getting other clothes
a literal banana hammock is not a good fashion statement
i know it wasnt his fault but like yeah
well now there are a bunch of other guys existing so like youd know by now i think
if that was the only reason
some of the people around here are pretty cute
its like theres some attractiveness requirement to being interdimensionally kidnapped
and we all meet it
i forget what the point of this sentence was